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jerry mcnulty's avatar

Latest Chartist: "According to LPL Research, a gain of 5% or more in January coming on the heels of a negative year represents a very strong plank in the bullish case. This has occurred five previous times since 1954. On each and every occasion, the S&P posted impressive gains ranging from 20% to 45% over the following year. The last time the S&P gained more than 5% in January after a negative year was in 2019. The S&P finished the year with a 29% gain. Whether history repeats remains to be seen.".....We'll see....keeping an open mind....

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Financial conditions need to get tighter.

All I've heard in investment banking world to start the year is that "credit spreads have peaked", Powell is doing "25-25 and stopping" and CNBC hype beast Brian Belski thinks 4,000 on the SPX is the low for '23. Everyone is calling off the dogs and saying its time to hit the market running. Optimism abounds and the start to the year shows capital hasn't been destroyed (maybe short capital has for the time being?)

You mentioned last year that it'll take time for PE capital to hurt and when that happens we know we're near the bottom. Interesting thing I've heard is that PE bros who don't understand marking to market expect to get full price for their horses during 2H of '23 *when* credit markets reopen and are preparing to come to market accordingly. Let's see if that need for liquidity forces sales to continue even at lower prices if Powell lays the hammer.

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